As I watched and finished the Adventure of the Swordgirl (Treasure Venture), I found myself inspired by many philosophies of the film. Here are just some pearls that I’ve found and I’d like to share with everyone.
True Love Of course this is the most attractive one! I’ve read some good essays on the film, and all of them saluted the deep love growing between Shui Ruohan and Lu Jianpingz. I admire Ruohan’s willingness to stab himself in Jianping’s sword, rather than hurting the girl’s father, and eventually hurting the girl he loved the most. I love watching the couple’s eyes meet together, as they nursed the baby, played in the street, etc… Already mentioned many times. It was also true love that united Wuma (a Japanese samurai disguised as Jianping’s nanny) and Song Yinniang (Ruohan’s stepmother), bridging their differences.
Unconditional Love Nicky Wu was so totally involved while playing Shui Ruohan, from being a cold professional killer to a thoughtful swordsman. He was willingn to let Jianping marry the Prince, as he understood he might not be able to live long enough to make Jianping happy. I also admire the Prince himself – Zhu Yulong for his ability to accompany Jianping to Shaolin Temple, though he understood that the girl didn’t want to marry him. I also admire his willingness to help the Lu family in the midst of wedding preparation of Ruohan and Jianping. But most of all, I admire his decision to let the girl go once again as Ruohan kidnapped Jianping in the middle of the imperial wedding. And I admire the Prince’s sincere love that enabled him to feel the compassion towards Ruohan and Jianping, and to treat them as if they’re his own brother and sister.
Friendship Friendship eventually grew between Ruohan and Yulong after being rivals for such a long time. Jianping didn’t care about the fact that Wuma was a Japanese. Race is not important, but love and friendship were.
Sacrifice Xuezi – Ruohan’s fellow apprentice eventually sacrificed herself to save Ruohan and Jianping from their enemy (Cao Youxiang – Ruohan’s adoptive father) though the price was Xuezi’s death.
Forgiving Jianping forgave Wuma’s attack that brought death to her mother 18 years ago, as Jianping still considered Wuma as if he was her own mother. Ruohan chose to save his adoptive father – Cao Youxiang, though he knew that it was Cao who brought death to Ruohan’s family when he was only 7 years old. Though in the end Ruohan did kill Cao, he did that with no personal feeling, as letting Cao live will endanger the security of the state.
Marriage A very inspiring sentence of Ruohan that I remembered is about marriage. He said that marriage is not easy, but it’s worth it. A couple should be able to find passion in the monotonous life of marriage, and even regard each other’s weaknesses as something interesting and something to savor.
Life is worth living Ruohan understood that he wouldn’t live long enough to marry and make Jianping happy. Yet he still tried to live his life with her, wandering around the country, living and working as commoners, raising a baby. All just for a day, even an hour for life. Jianping herself insisted on marrying Ruohan, even if just for a day. Even just a day of happiness is worth a try. They’re trying to live, and celebrating life in any condition.
Flexible as a bamboo, living as water We should respect and honor our lives and others’ as well. Ruohan eventually learned how to live like bamboo, flexible yet so powerful. He learned to respect his enemy’s soul, to consider the soul’s value before he took a life. From a killing machine who swung his sword without a blink, he became a swordsman who respected others’ lives, and who was willing to die to save strangers. Jianping herself learned to live like water, flowing, giving happiness to others, without any worries. She grew up to be a mature girl without loosing her cheerful character and her ability to celebrate life.
So my final word is this: See The Swordgirl, and let’s celebrate our life!
This is a prequel to Chinese Paladin and takes place 50 years earlier. Jing Tian is a mischievous pawnshop assistant who because of the power of a mystical jade, crosses paths with the spoiled and sassy Tang Xuejian, the beloved granddaughter of Tang Manor's Tang Kun, who meets with danger when an evil cult tries to take over control of the Tang Manor. Xu Chang Qing, the eldest disciple of Mt Shu Sect aids the pair in defeating the cult and rescuing the Tang Manor. Meanwhile, Chong Lou, ruler of the evil world, breaks into Mt Shu's Demon Locking Pagoda to retrieve a magical sword. He passes the sword to Jing Tian, claiming that it belonged to latter when he was a deity in his past life and forces Jing Tian to battle with him. The five elders of Mt Shu Sect call upon Jing Tian and Chang Qing to attain 5 mystical pearls to seal up the Demon Locking Pagoda and destroy a powerful force of evil so as to save the world from destruction. Together with Xue Jian, the group set off to accomplish their mission. On the way, they overcome various obstacles and must solve mysteries pertaining to their pasts.
The series begins with Jing Tian riding a sword in a dream. He meets an old man, who has a mysterious box. Jing Tian, being the funny chap he is, wonders if it's treasure. The old man says, he has to do two things for him in order to see the box.
Jing Tian's guess: Money, women. ROFL!
Then Maomao, Jing Tian's best buddy, wakes him up. He's like, "HOW DARE YOU? I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE DA MONNAIII!!"
Biping, another friendof them, starts calculating the money they owe each other for that.
Suddenly, a shooting star comes, and a pendant is landed in Jing Tian's hands.
A PRECIOUS ITEM!!!!
Jing Tian think about how much he should sell it for.
He examines the treasure and plots about the MONNEYYYY he'll get $_$
Jing Tian goes on the streets and gets excited about it again.
Suddenly, another girl with a pendant that looks almost the same, appears on the streets. Their pendants glow and suddenly they get stuck together. Literally!
OOOOO XUE JIAN IS MAD!
They get into the "you pervert, how dare you touch me!" fight.
They get stuck on a sedan on top of a building.
Suddenly, the sedan falls and drops them both on the ground.
After all that, Jing Tian goes on his merry ways and suddenly, a MASKED GUY!!! WHO COULD IT BE??
He says that Jing Tian is the savior of the world, and shows him a picture of what the world will become in 300 days time. Jing Tian thinks he's just ridiculous and continues thinking about how much money he's gonna make with the treasure.
The mysterious masked dude takes away Jing Tian's pendant.
After he leaves, Jing Tian suddenly gets captured by the Tang's, which is Xuejian's household - for offending their Young Miss. OH DEAR, Jing Tian! What have you got yourself int??
Xuejian is humiliated and wants to think of a way to die (of course, she really wasn't, just pretending!)
Jing Tian goes up to her and says, "What? Seeing how handsome I am, you suddenly don't want to die?"
Jing Tian says he has a plan, and for everyone in the Tang household to listen to him.
Jing Tian sees that Xuejian is trying to find ways to die, so he gives her this giant knife and says how horrible of a death it will be if she died that way. Suddenly, she didn't want to die!
Xuejian's grandfather watches and smiles secretly with Jing Tian's ingenious method.
Jing Tian kept going with all the possibilities of death, such as how horrible of a ghost she'd be if she poisoned herself, or hanged herself...
Xuejian gets so frustrated, she says "I suddenly don't feel like dying today. I'll think of a better way to die tomorrow" and runs off.
Xuejian asks who he is, and Jing Tian says...
"I'm Jing Tian. The Jing as in Jing Tian, and the Tian as in Jing Tian." What a brilliant way to explain the words in his name. That's totally clever! (And Jing Ke uses the same words! They really are so similar)
After all that, the grandfather searches Jing Tian's whole body (looking for the pendant), and since he didn't find it, he let Jing Tian go.
In return, she went to get some more clay next to the latrine, and of course it stunk like hell.
Also she found out that his most treasured teapot was broken, so she takes it to Jing Tian's pawn shop and asks forces him to make a new one.
From what we can see here, even though Xuejian appears to be spoilt, she cares a lot about her grandfather and would do anything to make him happy. That's a really sweet, and positive trait.
She watches Jing Tian at work with the teapot.
OOPS, I THINK SOMETHING IS WRONGG! Xuejian's hair starts growing like a.... WOW, what grows at this pace? She mentions it's the first day of spring, so her hair will start growing like crazy.
This may not seem important but it's a big clue to revealing who she is!
HER HAIR IS GOING CRAAAZYYY!!!
Xuejian gets the hair cut off and learns that her grandfather is very ill with diabetes. If he could drink dew from the flowers at the foot of Mt. Shu, it may be a way to help him.
Xuejian, being the filial granddaughter she is, had absolutely no hesitation and went to the foot of Mt. Shu to collect the dew. She meets Jing Tian there, who's also looking for something *COUGH*MORE*TREASURES*.
He thought Xuejian was also there for treasures...
Before they could do much, a bunch of zombies came crashing in...
Suddenly, a really skilled guy, Chang Qing, a disciple of the Mt. Shu Sect comes in and uses his powers to get rid of the zombies.
I'm a crazy fan of Tangren, love most of their productions to death and are on my top of the top lists. What I love most about Tangren is their female characters. Huang Rong, Xiaoqi, Sanniang, Xiao Lian, Fei Yang, Yueru -- they're all female characters that truly stand out for me. I was watching a couple of other series and notice the difference in the personalities, and I really wanted to do a comparison on them. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the other producers/characters, but I just feel there's a lot of difference between them.
I also understand that some of Tangren's characters are based on a previous work, so personality may have already been written. But there's something in common with all the characters above, and that is - they are strong, they love with all their hearts but they love selflessly, as well as they have a really cute, fun side to them.
Tangren: Xiao Lian (The Beauty Mermaid)
Cute, bubby, strong, magnanimous, protective and loves to have fun. She has the best philosophy ever, probably because she's a free-spirited mermaid, who doesn't think people should care about etiquette and should just have fun. She'd rather catch butterflies and think random thoughts that make no sense, rather than follow everything by the rules. She stands up for people, she really tries to protect others, not just her love, but also her friends, she is 100% in trying to help, without a single part of her doing it for herself. Xiao Lian did all she can for love, she gave it all, but what I admired most is her magnanimity. She sacrificed so much for his happiness.
Feiyang (Don't Love Me)
Bold, confident, giving and fun loving. In her dying days, continuously helped Xufeng to be with his girlfriend, even though she loved him. Feiyang would go out of her ways to do things for him, without wanting anything in return. Her quote was something along the lines of, just wanting to see him happy was enough to make her happy.
Yueru (Chinese Paladin)
Yueru started out to be more on the "mean" side, but as her past was revealed, she really started to show a different side to her. What's most admirable about her is she constantly trying to help Li Xiaoyao, she is what I would call noble. The first time I was really surprised with how she acted was when she was helping with the red dandelions. I love what she said, that she understood the source of his happiness wasn't from her, but she wanted to stay with him, but not to "steal him away", but because she cared and wanted the best for him.
When it comes to love, Tangren's philosophies greatly differs to others. Tangren's philosophy is, that when you love someone, you love them in wanting them to be happy, giving, rather than taking. And of course, when it comes to Tangren's female leads showing this trait, I feel that most of them have a great magnanimity and selflessness. Yueru, Xiao Lian and Fei Yang were perfect examples. They continued to do their utmost for their loved ones, even if it meant helping them be with the one they love, even if it wasn't themselves.
However, I can see there's a big difference compared to other productions.
On the other hand, I will compare it to some of Qiongyao's characters, who has written novels and created series like Princess Returning Pearl and Romance in the Rain. Qiongyao's philosophy in love seems very different, and that a lot of relationships should be based on jealousy. If you look at both couples in Princess Returning Pearl, Ziwei was jealous of Qing'er, Xiao Yan Zi was jealous of Cailian, Yong Qi was jealous of Xiao Jian. It seems that a couple's problem has to be about not trusting the other person just because they "seem" to love someone else a bit more.
Xiao Yan Zi (Princess Returning Pearl)
Xiao Yan Zi is definitely a great, strong character who's funny, righteous and awesome. However, when it comes to love, she is very different. She doesn't seem to have a great deal of understanding towards Yong Qi, and him riding horses with a girl she saved got her so mad she ended up throwing rocks on his head.
Ruping (Romance in the Rain) Ruping is one of the worst case scenarios. I thought she was very selfish and manipulative. Sometimes, I felt like hitting her over the head to knock some sense into her. Firstly, she's madly in love with a guy she hardly spent time with, she thinks that Yiping "stole" her boyfriend. That's very delusional because I felt that they were never together. Then, she tries to steal him away when they broke up, and she couldn't wait to crawl into his arm, not caring at all about her sister, who is in such a horrible situation, being so depressed over this whole thing, and all she was interested in was stealing him away. Gosh, I really do not like this character.
However, please note that I am not saying that's all characters written by one person is a certain way. I really love the Tangren philosophy and characters they develop. I think it's interesting that every production company seem to have their own philosophies and ideas on how a character should be, or what love means.
Please don't get me wrong, I love the characters (minus Ruping - who's a selfish bitch) from both productions. I just think it's interesting that their values, actions and beliefs are so different from each other.
It seems like Tangren's philosophy of love is: Love means you do things for the other person, to give without asking for anything in return, whereas other philosophies of love seems like, love is for me and me alone, which cannot be shared.
This is one of my favourite songs and music videos ever made!
One Kiss, Barren Sky - Hu Ge
I shall endure all the desolation and feel the regret of time wasted Your tears are like amber, melting the world's desolation Who is seeking in the torrential rain? Whose hug are you trying to break free of? Every second and minute is like torture to me, Who is right or wrong, loving more or less, there is no need to fuss It's only me that once loved someone deeply Locked instantly in an embrace, nowhere to run, one kiss leaves the sky barren A flower that will never wither, forgetting time in the blink of an eye Feelings lost in the darkening world, no matter how crazy and brave you are, suffering awaits at the end After a moment of ignorance, I realise that I have lost my senses Time suddenly passes fast then slow, going high and low, good and evil, laughter and sadness Love and hate are nothing, thoughts concerning you are all in the past Love is like a broad lake, saving the withered dunes of life Loving you deeply is more like a fatal encounter, just let me ignore my incapabilities
In short, I love wuxia! “Back in the 90's I came upon some comic books from Jademan Press that featured some incredible martial arts and complex storytelling and I enjoyed them immensely, but they stopped issuing them translated into English and figured that was that and moved on. Years later, I came across the movie, "The Storm Riders" and was impressed by it. I had hoped to see more movies like it, but alas, my somewhat half-hearted attempts to find more came up with nothing and once again, I moved on.
Then, on Facebook, a friend on there had told me about ancientchinese.net and I made a note of it, but it wasn't until later that I saw a share for the page, Promoting Ancient Chinese and from there I decided to check out the website and my mind became blown!
After going through a few of the trailers posted on the Facebook page, I decided to start watching the series, "Legend of Condor Heroes 2008"
I finished all 50 of the 49 minute episodes in about a week! I was officially hooked.
I expected to get great martial arts fighting with effects for the more magical aspects of the fights like I saw in "The Storm Riders" and was not disappointed. What surprised me was the complexity of not only the plots but the characters and their development as well. Some of the villains not being completely evil, some of the heroes having their own flaws, and the relationships between characters went past the standard good vs evil and love triangle plotlines, there was interplay between even secondary characters and it was deep and rich and fulfilling. It was such a completely satisfying experience and I moved to my next series (which I am still currently watching) "Chinese Paladin 1"
As I got into Chinese Paladin another thing about wuxia that struck me was the strength of the female characters. The roles of females in wuxia aren't the typical damsel in distress or overcompensating tough girl. The females in wuxia are capable and complex, with their own foibles and power...actresses in Hollywood would kill for these kinds of roles and in wuxia they seem commonplace.
The lore behind the more fantasia aspects of the characters' martial arts are also deep and detailed. The CG and practical effects that the studios are using to display the martial arts techniques are very good (for the most part) and make sense. They aren't just gratuitous graphical garbage just thrown out there for some eye candy (looking at you, Michael Bay) but instead show the effects of the established martial art, based in centuries long mythology, being used to their fullest effect and the damage those powers cause to both opponent and the surrounding environments.
Everything about what little wuxia I have seen thus far has been great, never insulting my intelligence, and it's taking me on quite the entertaining ride as it takes me on the journey with the characters.
Zhao Ning (Host): Welcome Sina netizens, I am the host Zhao Ning. From the preparation of the series to filming to airing, many fans have been following "Chinese Paladin 3″ with great interest. We have also just received news that this series will be the first series to air on Jiangsu Satellite TV for 2010. Today, Sina Entertainment is very honoured that we were able to invite such guests here and have a chat with everyone. Welcome Hu Ge!
Hu Ge: Hello everyone.
Zhao Ning: An old friend of Sina, you have a very high number of sina twitter followers.
Hu Ge: It's just a place where I express my thoughts.
Zhao Ning: Welcome Liu Shi Shi starring as Long Kui in the series!
Liu Shi Shi: Hello everyone.
Zhao Ning: At the same time, we must introduce a very important person. She is the producer, Karen Tsoi. Everyone calls you Tsoi Jie.
Karen: K Jie.
Follows Original Game's Specifications, Tangren Creates
Zhao Ning: We also call you that. Everyone is quite familiar with "Chinese Paladin 3″ – due to a classic game becoming a television series. In the beginning how did you have the idea? How different is the series compared to the game?
Karen: 5 years ago, a friend bought the copyright of "Chinese Paladin" but was unable to shoot it for four years. Countless partners all refused this case, it was extremely hard to film as there are a lot of action scenes. After that someone suggested if they wanted to find Tangren as they specialized in filming these types of series. Therefore, they called me and because I don't play games, it was quite a different subject matter. When I researched on the internet, I then realised how popular it was, and thought it was quite fun. Thus, I confirmed it with my friend. When "Chinese Paladin" aired, it was quite good and many people looked forward for us to film a sequel – the second series being "Chinese Paladin 3″.
Zhao Ning: From "Chinese Paladin" to "Chinese Paladin 3″, many people followed with interest. You just mentioned that there were many producers who did not want to accept the job because there were too many action scenes and thus being difficult to do. How did Tangren manage this, in order to achieve most of the effects present in the game?
Karen: I think Tangren probably didn't care about its survival.
Zhao Ning: Were there confirmed difficulties in the process?
Karen: We didn't know how to be afraid, and this attempt was quite daring. However, at that time, we didn't think about it so much. We simply thought that this subject was good so we did it. We did, while we resolved matters – many of the technology problems were quickly solved. After the experience we gained from filming "Chinese Paladin", we created an animation company, which is able to assist Tangren in creating this type of series.
Frequently Talking To Air While Filming
Zhao Ning: I really want to ask the actors; did you find it quite interesting when filming the series as particular scenes required special effects to be added afterwards?
Hu Ge: When I came to this group, I felt that it was quite familiar. We'd often be talking and fighting to the air in front of a blue or green screen. In terms of fighting, Shi Shi was quite amazing. Her action scenes were really good.
Zhao Ning: When such a soft girl fights, it seems realy amazing. Have you learnt before?
Liu Shi Shi: Correct.
Zhao Ning: Then breaking into Hollywood after that would be really good. I heard that actors there will frequently film like that.
Hu Ge: The development of technology will advance. Perhaps not only acting in front of a green or blue screen, maybe all that's needed in the future is to take a photo of the actor and 3D effects would be created from it – there is already a movie out there like that. We, the actors need to prepare for what we'd do if we lost our careers.
Zhao Ning: How will you invest?
Hu Ge: I will sell the blue screen.
Zhao Ning: I thought you would've thought of a related company.
Karen: Hu Ge's dream is to become a director, and is already looking in that direction.
Hu Ge: Start from posting sina tweets.
Hu Ge Is "Chinese Paladin's" Spokesperson
Zhao Ning: There has been a big change of actors starring in "Chinese Paladin" to "Chinese Paladin 3″. Hu Ge is the male lead in "Chinese Paladin", but why was he chosen to be so?
Karen: He has a "Chinese Paladin" symbol – he looks like the spokesperson of "Chinese Paladin". When we started to film "Chinese Paladin 3″, the company of the game did not have any requirements, just for Hu Ge to continue starring in the series.
Zhao Ning: Did Hu Ge's earnings increase from "Chinese Paladin" to "Chinese Paladin 3″?
Hu Ge: Yes.
Zhao Ning: It is because your expenditure has increased, thus more is spent on the film.
Hu Ge: My earnings has increased, but prices have so too.
Karen: That's a good thing for him – for "Chinese Paladn 3″, the production company is his management company. He said whatever he earned for "Chinese Paladin", he can take advantage of three-times the amount now. However, he was a newcomer in "Chinese Paladin", therefore his earnings were low.
Hu Ge: Jing Tian is a happy character.
Zhao Ning: When you were filming "Chinese Paladin", Hu Ge was a newcomer, but you gained numerous fans who became to know you from that series. Has this amount of fans increased after 3 years?
Hu Ge: I've aged. When we were filming "Chinese Paladin 3″, there was a scene where Li Xiao Yao travelled in time. He was considered as a guide, giving Jing Tian advice in difficult times. There was a fellow worker in the company who was a fan of "Chinese Paladin" before he started working here and had also seen series. He meant to attend but was coincidently there when we filmed the scene where Li Xiao Yao was travelling in time. He ran over there because he wanted to see how Li Xiao Yao was in real life.
Zhao Ning: A very big difference though.
Hu Ge: The appearance is quite similar, but there will be a difference after a deeper understanding. And there is quite a few differences too.
Zhao Ning: Care to explain?
Hu Ge: Let me get a script (laughs). In simple terms; Li Xiao Yao has quite a big change, growing up in a small town and becoming a hero – therefore, there is growth. From beginning to end, Jing Tian maintains his happy-go-lucky behaviour. When faced with issues, he always uses a happy and a very relaxed method to solve them. After that, he brings happiness to other people. He places all his unhappiness in his heart, and uses his own ways to resolve them.
Zhao Ning: I've seen many netizen's discussions; For Jing Tian, "the sky and earth is great but happiness is the greatest".
Hu Ge: He's a happy character.
Liu Shi Shi: If Long Kui wasn't so stubborn, she wouldn't have waited a thousand years.
Zhao Ning: Shi Shi took part in "Chinese Paladin 3″ but did not in the first series. But you have seen "Chinese Paladin", right?
Liu Shi Shi: Some parts. At that time when I was studying, I did hear how popular "Chinese Paladin" was.
Zhao Ning: When it was confirmed that you would be part of the cast of "Chinese Paladin 3″, what type of role were you looking forward to? How did you feel?
Liu Shi Shi: At that time, it was already confirmed that I was going to play Long Kui. I downloaded the game to play, but I wasn't very good, so I did not end up finishing the game. Then, I went searching for netizens who really liked "Chinese Paladin, and saw some screen captures.
Zhao Ning: Long Kui is a wrongly accused spirit from a thousand years ago?
Liu Shi Shi: Not a wrongly accused spirit. She is a thousand year old ghost.
Zhao Ning: I have read a description about her, and it says that she is a thousand year old immortal, but only due to feelings. This character you have portrayed is quite old in terms of age.
Liu Shi Shi: A thousand year old.
Zhao Ning: Waiting for a thousand years, there must be a lot of emotions.
Liu Shi Shi: Yes. She has always been waiting for Jing Tian, and so she waits for a thousand years.
Zhao Ning: The relationship between you two is emotional love disputes?
Liu Shi Shi: A very innocent and innocent relationship between a brother and sister.
Zhao Ning: What kind of story is it when you have reincarnated and the one you see is Jing Tian?
Liu Shi Shi: In her mind, she is absolutely sure that he is her brother, and no matter how much he has changed, he is the only one in her heart.
Zhao Ning: A very stubborn girl.
Liu Shi Shi: If she wasn't, she couldn't have waited for a thousand years.
Zhao Ning: Was it a challenge playing a role like this?
Liu Shi Shi: She has two faces, whenever she encounters danger, she will turn red out of fury very publicly. When I first started, it seemed as if the red Long Kui was more of a challenge. However, when I began filming as the gentle blue Long Kui, the afraid-to-be-public side of the character was actually more of a challenge.
Hu Ge: Liu Shi Shi is a blockbuster.
Zhao Ning: It's Hu Ge and Shi Shi's first time working together?
Hu Ge: Second time.
Liu Shi Shi: It's the third time.
Zhao Ning: You both have worked together a number of times, is there chemistry between you two?
Hu Ge: We haven't had much scenes together in the past.
Zhao Ning: Worked together the most in this series?
Hu Ge: Yes.
Zhao Ning: What personality does Shi Shi have? Upon appearance, it seems as if she is very gentle and quiet. Is her acting ‘explosive'?
Hu Ge: She is considered a blockbuster. Most of the time she is gentle and frail-looking. However, she is amazing when filming action scenes. You wouldn't believe that she has become a female kungfu star. When we were filming "Chinese Paladin 3″, there was one scene which left the deepest impression on me – it was when my past life was with her, and we finally reunited after my years of battle. When she was speaking, she started to cry. She had tears from the beginning right till end, and they didn't stop.
Zhao Ning: She can cry easily.
Hu Ge: I absolutely believe that she has totally become her character.
Zhao Ning: Shi Shi recall this scene?
Liu Shi Shi: I am a person who expresses my feelings while doing my lines. That scene mentions the fact that I have waited for him for so long, and when he finally returns, I could not hold down my emotions, and cried the whole time.
Zhao Ning: What it also your most memorable scene?
Liu Shi Shi: It was quite memorable.
Zhao Ning: Were there any others? Were they action scenes?
Liu Shi Shi: I have little action scenes, as the red Long Kui doesn't come out too often. Though, once I do, it usually results to fighting.
Zhao Ning: It is because of a background in dance, so it was much easier for Shi Shi to do fighting scenes. What about Hu Ge?
Hu Ge: She has a background in dance, I have a background in turning upside down.
Zhao Ning: You are not Xiao Shen Yang, why are you turning upside down?
Hu Ge: When you begin to learn boxing, you must learn how to take a beating. It's the same with acting. I'm not saying that you must take a beating, it's in terms of when you're acting, you need to know how to protect yourself. After all, there is a definite danger in action scenes. I believe that you must listen 100% to the martial arts teacher, and filming fighting scenes depends on the coordination of a number of people. You must first learn your sense of direction and distance well, then it will appear real onscreen, and safe for your own sake as well.
Zhao Ning: Very professional.
Hu Ge: It's all from turning upside down.
Hu Ge Sacrificed & Most Cooperative Actor In Series
Zhao Ning: Ok, I'll ask the producer. There are many actors in "Chinese Paladin 3″ who newly entered into this series from the last. Other than Shi Shi, there are also many excellent actors, comment on their performance and your thoughts on choosing them?
Karen: We have thought about using the same cast from "Chinese Paladin", but realised that was unrealistic. After "Chinese Paladin", the stars earnings increased a lot. It was first decided that Hu Ge was to star in the series. The other role, Chang Qing was also extremely important. He must be handsome, because he is Jing Tian's idol – we then decided on Wallace Huo. Originally, time was a problem but I repeatedly requested him to take on the role, and it was quite an effort too. The series consisted of Hu Ge and Wallace Huo; the other important role, and Hong Kong actor Lin Zi Cong (Maomao) was most suitable for the role. These three male stars already accounted for majority of the budget. As for female stars, we needed to choose from new actors – someone who was young, beautiful. Among those stars, Tang Yan was outstanding, so she was the first one to be decided. Liu Shi Shi is a well liked and cultivated actress within the company so she was also decided on early in the process. Xue Jian was the last to be decided. When we started filming, we were still deciding who be take on the role. Many people helped out, giving us idea on who should portray that role. Yang Mi's popularity was very high, so I approached her. She was also a Xuejian fan when she played the game, so that's when we asked her. At that time, she was still filming "Dream Of The Red Chamber" and needed to cater for both sides. It even resulted for her to take a month off, so it was difficult for us to continue work. We couldn't find anyone else more suitable for the role, and we decided it was going to be her. It also meant that Hu Ge would need to work more harder, and didn't get the chance to sleep much. When she came back, we needed to catch up on her scenes, so they had to film scenes day and night. Hu Ge will always be the most cooperative one, and the one who sacrificed the most.
"Chinese Paladin 3′s" Production Is More Brilliant Than "Chinese Paladin's"
Zhao Ning: Hu Ge is very professional, not just good-looking. I want to ask the producer; there is a break of 3 years between "Chinese Paladin" and "Chinese Paladin 3″, other than gaining a very good public praise, many people were looking forward to "Chinese Paladin 3″ and with need of employing the advances of special affects, what are you thoughts on the production?
Karen: We didn't have much experience in "Chinese Paladin", and this included action within the series. At that time, we learnt while filming, and after 3 years of working hard we managed to result in this type of series. When we were filming "Chinese Paladin 3″, we totally followed the design of action scenes within films. The crew managed how each group was to film, how to do it. Our animator acted as a guide – everyone who was wearing green was to do such and such move. We did very little of that in "Chinese Paladin". Much of the work was added on after the filming. In creating "Chinese Paladin 3″, the cooperation from everyone was needed.
Zhao Ning: The final results have shown?
Karen: Our first scene to film for episode 1 was fighting in the sky, but it all required a green screen. We did not do that in "Chinese Paladin", but this concept helped a lot. The production of "Chinese Paladin 3" is much more brilliant that "Chinese Paladin".
Zhao Ning: The girls who were able to take part in "Chinese Paladin" are very fortunate.
Liu Shi Shi: Because there are handsome guys.
Zhao Ning: Not only handsome guys, the fairies in the series are also very beautiful.
Liu Shi Shi: When I had my costume and make-up done, I saw how my dress was held up and did not let go, it looked really good.
Zhao Ning: Usually, there's a need for a creative imagination while filming the series. Before, you two have worked together in "Young Warriors", "Legend Of The Condor Heroes" and now, "Chinese Paladin 3″ – which are all very different. This time, you are able to work with Hu Ge much more. He's just talked about you, you talk about him?
Liu Shi Shi: He's an older brother. We weren't familiar with each other as we didn't have much scenes together. (Hu Ge laughs) So when filming "Chinese Paladin 3″, I slowly got to know him more. He constantly makes jokes at scenes, but he's a very good persion – no matter what you say, he can always come up with a comeback.
Zhao Ning: Is his personality like Li Xiao Yao or Jing Tian more?
Hu Ge: They have evaluated me like that before. They think I was easiest to work with when I was filming "Legend Of The Condor Heroes" and hardest in "Chinese Paladin 3″. I've matured very much in "The Myth".
Zhao Ning: Many people are influenced by their character.
Hu Ge: Yes. If you let her speak, she might not be able to say it. She didn't have a lot of contact with me in "Young Warriors", she was completely involved with her love for Si Lang, and in "Legend Of The Condor Heroes", she was also in the world of Yang Kang. There wasn't a lot of episodes where we would be in the same scene.
Liu Shi Shi: But you were very approachable then.
Hu Ge: Very silly, very idiotic.
Liu Shi Shi: Correct.
Hu Ge: Thank you.
Zhao Ning: Hu Ge isn't the same as he was in "Chinese Paladin" a long time ago.
Hu Ge: Still is.
Zhao Ning: I'm sure you've had many feelings of growth?
Hu Ge: But there are still things that hasn't changed.
Zhao Ning: Of course.
Hu Ge: These feelings are still alive.
Zhao Ning: That's a symbol of success. When someone is famous, their age seems to fall.
Hu Ge: You're praising me.
Zhao Ning: You've filmed so many ancient dramas, and portrayed a number of heroes, how do you feel?
Hu Ge: The feeling is great. When I was young, I knew that many guys had a world of their own. Not just a childhood world, but a mythical world, or a wuxia world. Mine was like that. My dad had a lot of books; like wuxia novels, so I would rummage through them. When I was young, I would also picture myself as a master of a wuxia world, or a hero. I was the type who fought against injustice and help fight for the weak and mistreated. I never thought that after becoming an actor that I would have the chance to act out my childhood role – the feeling was really good.
Zhao Ning: I want to ask Hu Ge; when you were young, which wuxia hero did you want to be the most?
Hu Ge: Ling Hu Chong. I didn't say I must portray him, just simply of the characters within the wuxia novels, I like Li Hu Chong the most.
Zhao Ning: You have recently been filming a modern drama. I don't have a clear recollection of your modern dramas?
Hu Ge: It's hard to imagine, but I have been in 2 modern series before.
Zhao Ning: How come I cannot remember?
Hu Ge: One was before "Chinese Paladin", it was very sentimental then. It was my second year at university, and I played a father of a 6 year old. It was quite a challenge for me, and was also my first modern series. After that, I starred in "Till Death Do Us Apart" and the film, "Telephone 601″. Most people are more familiar with the ancient series I have filmed. Now I have such opportunity, I view it as a way to allow myself to see myself in both modern and ancient series. It's quite good – when they asked me, they did also worry as I've mostly starred in ancient series, and didn't know how it would feel to see me in a modern series. Tangren will film "Sword Of Xuan Yuan" next year.
Zhao Ning: Will you film the "Chinese Paladin" series again?
Karen: Our next series is "Sword Of Xuan Yuan", and is a similar game to "Chinese Paladin". We will start filming next year in April.
Zhao Ning: I have also played that game.
Karen: Which version?
Zhao Ning: There are many versions of "Sword Of Xuan Yuan".
Karen: We are filming "Rift Of The Sky".
Zhao Ning: I've played before. However, "Chinese Paladin" is the earliest game, so it terms of game fans, that's the best game.
Hu Ge: Which version is "Rift Of The Sky"?
Zhao Ning: It's quite fun. Will you be starring in it?
Hu Ge: That's for my boss to decide.
Karen: It'll be determined by his performance.
Zhao Ning: Do you want to continue your career and make it to the big screen?
Hu Ge: I think every actor's dream and goal is to make it to be big screen. It's when the audience will be spending money to see your film – the feeling will be quite different compared to a series shown on television.
Zhao Ning: You will work even harder there?
Hu Ge: Yes.
Zhao Ning: Because Shi Shi is a newcomer, the production company will give her opportunities in order to take part in such grand production series. What is your next job?
Liu Shi Shi: I am currently filming "Clothing The World" in Hengdian.
Karen: It is an ancient Chinese story about the legendary woman, Huang Dao Po innovating textile during the South Song period. It is a rather female dominated series.
Zhao Ning: Your role in the series?
Liu Shi Shi: A princess.
Zhao Ning: It seems as if the 3 of your will be quite busy. Other than promoting "Chinese Paladin 3″, there are also some new works.
Karen: Last night we arrived in Beijing, and we need to go back after this too. He [Hu Ge] needs to go back to Shanghai and continue working. We will be going to Hengdian.
Zhao Ning: Still need to continue working?
Zhao Ning: As Jiangsu Satellite TV New Year launch, many people will be looking forward to "Chinese Paladin 3″. Are we able to recommend this series?
Karen: How so?
Zhao Ning: Hu Ge would say, ‘I star as Jing Tian and experienced so and so, everyone can see how to peform, etc etc'.
Hu Ge: A hello to all Sina fans. Please support Sina's twitter.
Karen: A hello to all Sina fans. Next year's opening series with be "Chinese Paladin 3″ – it is a series that we worked on for 3 years and prepared for 5 years. Hope everyone will support it!
Liu Shi Shi: Jiangsu Satellite TV will be airing our "Chinese Paladin 3″ for new year, hope everyone will be watching it, it really is a good series.
Hu Ge: Hello everyone, I'm Hu Ge. In the Year of the Tiger, you must watch "Chinese Paladin 3″. "Chinese Paladin 3″ will be airing on Jiangsu Satellite TV. Hope everyone will support us, support "Chinese Paladin 3″ and support Jiangsu Satellite TV; thank you.
I noticed that Tangren likes to use new actors. What's the reason for that? Because using new actors is a pretty big risk. Because everyone knows that you have to get a high audience rating and quality. We all know that when we're choosing actors, using pretty well known actors can guarantee a certain level of skills. But Tangren likes to use new actors. I'd like to know where do you get this self-confidence?
Karen: The first series we used new actors would be Chinese Paladin. I still remember, in order to use these new actors, I spent a great deal of effort in persuading the investors. Hu Ge, Crystal Liu and Ady An. At that time, Ady was just starting to rise in Taiwan. So she wouldn't have been very familiar in Mainland. Also, Eddie Peng and Esther Liu. It was a complete group of new actors.
At that time, there were two groups of opinions.
Some people were like, "I want Nicholas Tse, and Ruby Lin for the parts". There were all types of different opinions. Some even suggested Zhang Weijian.
I'd go and write down those names.
I want to say - This is a series that's adapted from a game. The main important thing is to see what the internet users like. If I used actors who were already very familiar, then there wouldn't be any refreshing feeling.
At that time, I wanted to find very young actors. The age I was looking for was around 18 years old. Indeed at that time, Esther Liu was 16, Crystal Liu was 17. Also, Hu Ge was a young man in his early 20s. The average age in our group was 18 years old.
I told the investors that I would pay for all the publicity expenses. All the money left over from casting would be invested into promoting and giving them publicity. I refuse to believe that with all the money spent doing this, these new actors can't come out famous.
That time, I used all different methods, including sayiing to Hu Ge, how about we split the income by 1/2. I said to a Singaporean TV Station, since they invested that we go halves on the profit/income. In the end, he left me off and didn't get half of it.
I would use many ways to convince the investors to use new actors.
When we were filming, we felt that our decision was absolutely correct.
Because this is really very refreshing. You can film close-ups because their skins were all really good. They're really bright and beautiful. Gives you a bright and crystal clear feeling.
From the outsiders, you may have to consider the cost of the protection by using new actors. Because using new actors would probably cost less.
Karen: That's one of the things to be considered. I think this is it --
We use new actors because they're needed for the theme we're filming. Our stuff are all aimed for quite a young audience. For example, "Seven of the Sky", Xiaoqi is extremely adorable. It's impossible to go and find a 30 year old actress to play a really mischievous, strange little girl. That's impossible to arrange. Also, it's harder to find new actors who are that age. So the only thing you can do is select a few currently rising stars.
Secondly, in controlling the cost, we've always made it that actors make one third of the total cost. It cannot go over. Many shows, the actors get over 70%. Most of the money are spent on the cast, and only about 30% is left for the production. With these kinds of situation - how can you make a good series?
I remember there was a series where they spent all the money just to get one female actress to play a role. In the end, the entire process was very bumpy. In the end, that show was only broadcasted on a few channels and completely stopped.
These situations happened pretty often.
Those who watch Tangren series will notice two major points. Firstly, most of their series are Ancient. Second, all their actor and actresses are handsome and beautiful.
Karen: When our shows first broadcasted, we'd go on BBS and talk about it to viewers. We found that our online audiences has a deeper understanding of the TV shows. They were very different from the average viewer at home. They will have many explanations about the series and love to discuss many aspects of the series in detail. Then, you'll feel that they're really putting in the effort in watching your production. This is a great feeling. From then, I decided that online viewers are our very important audiences. That's why when we started filming, we aimed it at younger audiences. And the series would suit being broadcasted in Summer or Winter vacation.
From my understanding, about 60% of the TV shows made in China cannot be broadcasted.
Karen: That's right. In a year, the average amount of hours made in a TV Series is 15000 hours. The shows that really can be broadcasted doesn't exceed 5000 hours.
In such a competitive environment, how are you able to continue doing so well?
Karen: Some people go by quantity. Some treat a TV show as a business. For us, we treat it as a work of art. Tangren has a persistence. We only produce the finest works. Our quantity isn't high. In a year, we probably won't go over three series. I never overlap the series. At that time, we told ourselves. When we make TV shows, we should only aim for our show to be on top of the pyramid. You cannot go for the middle or bottom. If you aim to go for the top of the pyramid, you'll definitely be able to sell it. I also set myself a rule - This year, we'll film three series. I hope these three are on the top 10. Then, I will hope it will be in the top five.
About filming Legend of the Condor Heroes 2008
Karen: After we filmed Legend of the Condor Heroes for a month and a half, an accident happened.
After that, you completely change your views for life. This affected me very deeply.
Something like this completely catches you off guard, so the only thing you can do afterwards is to face it, solve it and think about how to stand up again.
Of course when the car accident happened at that time, we were very sad, but we didn't think too much. Because we knew that it will definitely get better. There would be no problems. Because I am a person that's too self-confident. No matter what we had to do, whether we had to continue filming or refilm, it was all fine. Although everyone reminded me that if you stop filming for one year, and then restart, it will be even harder than starting from scratch. Because you have to gather everyone together again. We have over 100 characters. Not to mention actors, even the staff members are difficult to gather. How would you gather 100 actors that played certain roles?
This was the first thing. Secondly, they also warned me.
Hu Ge may not be able to recover. That time, I really defied people who said that. I just felt that he'd definitely be able to get better. I didn't care. If he wasn't able to continue playing Guo Jing, we will not film Legend of the Condor Heroes anymore. Of course, all the money we invested would have been totally lost.
But when you experience a situation like that, what's most important is a person's life. Because one of our co-workers passed away in the accident. That's when you'll realize that besides life, everything else is materialistic.
You've got all these new actors, but in reality, they're all little girls/boys. How do you usually get along? Do you become friends with them?
That's right. Perhaps when I'm working and in private, I'm two completely different person. Actors who just signed a contract with us may be a bit afraid of me. When Hu Ge first signed on with us, he was very shy. I always invite him for tea every 3-5 days and I would tell him about the principles of life. He told me at that time, he didn't take in any of that. It's just that time, he seemed to be really socializing with me and was very learning in a very open-minded way. Then, he said to me he didn't even understand what I was talking about. But at that time, he looked very respectful. When we got to know each other later, we would be on an equal footing with me and we'd treat each other as if we're from the same generation.
When Liu Shi Shi first began, she was extremely scared of me. But now, we're bosom friends.
So perhaps after a while, I start giving it away.
Eddie Peng talks about funny moments during Filming
Eddie Peng: The affections Hu Ge and I gathered while we were filming in Hengdian was probably all from arranging us both to go to the toilet together. When you go to the toilet in Hengdian, you have to take someone with you. Because you need to help the other person see if there's anyone close by. But once when were going one day, it was either after Chinese Paladin or The Young Warriors, Hu Ge was too famous. When people in Hengdian saw us, they'd follow us into the toilet. They'd rushed in and took photos of us in secret. We were doing our job in the toilet, did you know that? It nearly scared us to death!
Seven of the Sky is a fantastic series that delivers romance, action tragedy, happiness and the philosophical exploration of many different types of love. I really hope as many people as possible get to see this series. Be warned though, it will send your emotions on a whiplash and a rollercoaster!
This is a big SPOILER before the story summation, so skip it if you want to get the idea of the whole story first. Here, I'd like to describe some of my favorite scenes from the show. First, I`ll start with my absolute favorite mainly due to what they were able to accomplish. The scene occurs right when Digua gets his memory back after Xiaoqi visits him while he is a slave. IN it, through a series of circumstances, the only way the two are able to express their love for each other is by saying that they hate each other, and that each one is the only person they can hate. To me, this is an amazing accomplishment by the writer in several ways, first in getting hate to mean love in such an honest way, and second to show such strength of these charachters to both face and resolve against the immense challenge before them of being able to continue their relationship in a world which refuses to let them be. To me this is a truly powerful scene, complimented by the acting skills of Ariel Lin and Hu Ge. Others, such as DG's final confrontation with the Jade Emperor, as well as Haoqi telling off his grandmother, are also freaking amazing just for the FUCK YEAH moments they give to the charachters in question.
We start with Digua flying kites and having fun with his classmates, basically setting up the basics of the characters, who all develop into full, complete character arcs by the end. Digua, or Dong Yong, is our main character, and a curious one at that. Calm, but honest and holds to traditions quite tightly. He has a strong sense of justice which is tested throughout the story. Through his Kite flying, which sets off the major events of the story, we meet Xiaoqi, the 7th daughter of the Jade emperor. Side note: Did the Jade Emperor have sons as well as daughters? We never see them. She, as we find out, is searching to help her 2nd sister, who has been served a fate that will serve as a constant Phantom over Xiaoqi's thoughts when she meets Digua. Xiaoqi is cheerful, but also headstrong, which serves to contrast to Digua's patience and faith in others, Xiaoqi is much more of a “take action” type of person.
The other characters, whose fates cross with Digua's several times, are as follows. Yuanbao, the girl-crazy and hyperactive son of a Rich man who constantly lies to himself, saying he is poor, as an excuse for his greedy behavior. Yuanbao is a good friend to Digua, and serves well to lighten the mood of the series when it gets dark. He seems like simple comic relief in the beginning, but as the story direction moves towards his family as the series goes on, you find out the reason for his Wasteful and carefree behavior. His female counterpart is Cui Niang, who is another funny character in that she acts similarly to how a rich, popular, vain girl in an American series would act. Her father, an official in the town, is one of the series' primary villains, who makes trouble for Digua constantly, although she herself turns out to be good in the end.
On the opposite side of the spectrum is Digua's other best friend, Haoqi, who has a very stoic and reserved attitude due to his grandmother, as a counterpart to Yuanbao's father, is a poor woman who is very proud and thinks she is rich. Because of this, she is very strict with Haoqi becoming successful, which has caused him to become a cold person, who only finds warmth in his friends. While writing this, it is interesting to note that Haoqi's grandmother and Yuanbao's father never interacted over the course of the series, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened. His female counterpart is the demure and devoted Saijin, whose mother runs an inn. She often stays in the background except for events concerning Haoqi, which has dire consequences near the end of the series.
One more major character is Master Lao, the teacher of all the people in the series. He, 50 years prior, had had a romance with Xiaoqi's 2nd sister, the cause for her predicament that xiaoqi wanted to get her out of. He is very wise, and serves to guide Digua while he sees him in the series. His attitude is one of conflicting optimism and pessimism because he lost his love to heaven.
Anyway, now that I set up the characters, on to the story events! Digua's character of innocent faith and sense of justice is set up in the beginning, as he receives his first letter from Xiaoqi while flying a kite to ask how tall the sky is. Xiaoqi finds his kite and responds asking for something that seems impossible, an Apple that will never rot. Digua not only solves this by making one out of beads, but on top of this, delivers a ridiculous amount of supplies by kite to help Xiaoqi!
This act makes xiaoqi interested in Digua, but it isn`t until she comes down to earth to find the man her sister fell in love(Lao) with that she truly meets him. On the mission to find him, Digua, through curiousity and willingness to help, becomes attached to Xiaoqi, and they begin to fall in love. After Lao gives a lesson to Digua about how the feeling of love is more important than the words, he and Xiaoqi are quickly separated in that she is called back to heaven as the terms of her sister's release were filled. Xiaoqi, however, was punished for going to earth without permission and for her stubborn attitude while being lectured. She in turn has to perform 100 good deeds on earth, disguised as a boy! Her father sets her up with Digua to stay and learn from, knowing he is a good and righteous person, but not knowing he is in love with xiaoqi. Nevertheless, he removes her “love root” as a precaution against a repeat of his other daughter's actions.
Through funny circumstance, Xiaoqi, acting very differently without her love root, is integrated into Digua's circle of friends as Long Guangbiao. Throughout this part of the series, Digua is conflicted about the fact that LG looks exactly like Xiaoqi, yet claims not to know her. This confuses Digua greatly for a few episodes as he tries to teach LG to be noble, but “he” constantly will not listen and acts spoiled.
Through events concerning another plot involving Cui-Niang's wicked father, LG learns to do good deeds by first helping to rescue people from a fire. After this, LG does more and more good deeds, even helping to convict Cui-niang's father of wrongdoing, though the messenger to the capital is killed by his assasins. Through an accident, it is discovered that LG is in fact Xiaoqi, who regains much of her former attitude, as she, as a girl is still accepted into Digua's school and circle of friends.
From this, Digua and Xiaoqi fall further in love, but Xiaoqi, until talking with Master Lao, is thinking her feeling cannot be love since her love root was removed. Lao explains that roots cannot be completely destroyed if the “base” (heart) is still intact, and Xiaoqi realizes she is in fact in love with Digua. For this lovely part of the series, we see scenes of them bonding and falling in love. Even Digua's parents, who had previously disapproved of Xiaoqi, get to know and love her as well, proving they are both very good people, which is shown throughout the rest of the series. It is around Episode 10 and 11(cut version) that things start to go very, very badly for Digua and Xiaoqi. The Queen Mother, seeing that the two have fallen in love, quickly sends the Kind God of land and the Stalwart Erlang to bring her back before her father notices this, even though her task is not yet completed.
The two, at first disguised as Xiaoqi's parents, attempt to placate Digua's parents for taking care of Xiaoqi by giving them much gold. However, both refuse and instead scold the two gods for being terrible parents to Xiaoqi, on top of leaving her there, not letting her marry the man she loves(Digua).
Xiaoqi attempts to fight Erlang, but still did not recover her powers, and buys some time to say goodbye to Digua. Eventually, after seeing how determined Xiaoqi is to stay, the Queen Mother allows Erlang to use a powerful staff against Digua. Digua, finally meeting her “parents” is at first very respectful, but even he with all his code of following elders and traditions, is furious at the parents for not letting Xiaoqi love.
Erlang uses the staff to try to knock him out, but through the sheer power of his love for Xiaoqi, Digua, in one of the best, saddest, and most memorable scenes in the series, withstands not one but several blasts of the staff that would normally knock a man out in one hit. Only Xiaoqi lying to him that she does not love him, to save his own life, stops him from follwing them to heaven, and he eventually submits to his wounds. Lao, finding Digua, is mortified that the same thing that happened to him happened again to one of his students, no less. This is the climactic end to the first “part” of the series, and then comes the very depressing, but the uplifting middle part.
In this stage, the story shows absolutely no mercy to Digua and has him and his family suffer perhaps every hardship possible, despite him, through his injuries, having memory loss about Xiaoqi. His injury invites a new character into the story, the Leapord Cat Spirit, Xiang Xuehai. Xuehai and her assistant are at first traveling innocently around, and even help heal Digua. It is later learned that the 2nd sister in fact had Xuehai with her during her romance with Master Lao, and Xuehai now wishes to know love in the mortal world like her. This has unforeseeably grim connotations for later on in the story.
However, it seems I have skipped over the majority of another story going on during Part 1, the story of Haoqi. During Part 1, Haoqi and Digua fought off assasins trying to kill a prince, and mistakenly, his personal guard as well. Seeing their proficiency, the prince praises them and wants them to have a match to decide who will accompany him to the capitol where he will hold a competition to decide the next Martial Arts scholar, a prestigious government post.
During the duel, Digua lets haoqi win, explaining that he is happy as he is and wishes for Haoqi to lead a happy life. In part 2, during the hardships Digua faces, Haoqi also faces his own in that the prince reveals ulterior motives in picking Haoqi. During the competition, he pegs Haoqi as the most likely to win, making all of the other participants go against him, even trying to poison his food. Later on, as he gets further in the competition, the prince reveals that Haoqi must take a dive for his favored candidate, whose victory will give him power with the Emperor. Haoqi was merely a pawn to be used in the Prince's power games. Haoqi refuses to go along with the plan, and after he defeats the Prince's chosen winner easily, he is framed by the prince for molesting the Prince's sister, and at the same time, the Prince catches him by surprise and gravely wounds him. The Prince tells this lie to the public and casts haoqi onto the streets, because of the Prince's words, no doctor will treat his wound.
Returning to Digua, at first, his family is blessed by good luck in the form of neverending gold being found in their fields, a present from the Jade Emperor who did not know of Digua and Xiaoqi's love. At first, this is good, but because of the greed of Cu-Niang's father, with help from Yuanbao's the entire family is swindled out of all their money, house, and even the factory they own, finally being forced to work at the factory they used to own for Yuanbao's father.
This horrible situation is slightly alleviated by the revelation that Digua, through the kindness of Lao and his friends, will not have to pay school fees due to his unfortunate situation. While preparing for a celebration for this, to compound misery onto misery, Digua's parents are killed by an accidental fire.
Showing some of his more evil intentions in the series, Yuanbao's father tells Digua that he must pay all the money his parents owed him, not including any kind of funeral preparations. Digua has no choice but to sell himself as a slave to Yuanbao's father, and he must work for him as a slave for 3 years.
Xiaoqi and her friends see this from heaven, and even the Queen Mother agrees that something must be done about it. Using a secret passage that her father will not see, Xiaoqi sneaks back down to the mortal world, and, after restoring Digua's memories, proceeds to slowly help Digua out of his situation. By making clever bets with Yuanbao's father, Xiaoqi eventually gets Digua's term of slavery down to two months. Digua is also happier now that at least Xiaoqi is there.
Sorry to go back again, but before the tradgedies began, Yuanbao and Cui Niang both found themselves along on special days for them that coincided. To share their “misery” they had a party at an inn for the two of them, and woke up, both thinking they had slept with the other. Yuanbao, as a player, is terrified by the implications of this in ancient times, and through a thankfully humorous sequence during these depressing parts of the story, is chased by Cui Niang all about town and finally leaves town for good, desperately not wanting to marry Cui Niang. This is the reason why Yuanbao never tried to stop his father from being so cruel to Digua, he was not there at the time.
At the same time, Haoqi's situation also improves. Xiang Xuehai, now on a deadly mission that I will get into in a moment, Recognizes Haoqi as someone who once saved her life. Because of the fact that both his father and grandfather also saved her life, their fates had been bound together. Xuehai heals Haoqi's wound and forces the Princess to tell the truth about the Prince and Haoqi. The emperor punishes the prince and allows Haoqi to take the final test for being the Marital Arts Scholar.
In one of the coolest sequences of the series, Haoqi is at first losing the final battle against 3 powerful soldiers at once, but then sees the faces of everyone he cares about in his sword, and gains a burst of confidence and energy, obtaining the upper hand and defeating the three. After fighting the soldier he and Digua fought back in his hometown, Haoqi is finally made the Martial Arts scholar. Because of slow news travel, everywhere he goes people accuse him of being a rapist, only to be humbled by the truth and his official status.
It is at this point where the story transitions between to sagas, the 2nd, that of tradgedy and overcoming it and the 3rd, concerning Xuehai. During the Tradgedy saga, Xuehai and her assistant visit a tree with a deceptive name, the tree of life. It's middleman, the snake demon, asks what Xuehai wants. She only wishes to become a mortal, to experience love. Rather flatly, the demon tells her to collect the hearts of 50 men, and hang them on the branches of a tree that will grow from a seed he gives her. With little hesitation, she agrees.
This begins her tragic saga, in that word quickly spreads of a murderer who kills by removing people's hearts. The emperor assigns Xinba, an envoy from Persia, to assist the new Martial arts scholar in this task of finding the murderer and bringing them to justice. Not knowing it is Xuehai, Haoqi is given a drawing of the woman believed to be the murderer, recognizing her but keeping it to himself. On his journies, he arrives back in his hometown and is welcomed back. He exposes Cui niang and Yuanbao's Fathers' treachery and lets them off with a warning as long as they return all stolen property to Digua and his girlfriend Xiaoqi, ending the Tradgedy saga.
From there, the story delves into a saga about Xuehai and her grisly quest to kill 50 people in 120 days, or she will disappear. Haoqi quickly confronts Xuehai, and they get into a fight, as haoqi's sense of justice will not let him let her go no matter what he thought of her before. As they fight, Haoqi realizes that the wounds he inflicts on her also become inflicted on himself, and that they are cursed to share a single fate. This torments haoqi to no end, and to buy time for them, Xuehai's assistant takes the fall for the murders and has herself killed by the guards trying to capture her. Haoqi tells everyone Xuehai was innocent and being strung along, while they begin to try to understand one another.
While Xiaoqi was helping Digua during the tradgedy saga, a Princess from Persia named Nana, at first disguised as a man, came to the town to find information about the person who killed her 12 brothers. This is later found out by the audience to be Xuehai, because of the method of killing.
This part of the story is where everything has “normalized” for many of the characters after a great deal of turmoil, and a lot of developments occur during this stretch of episodes. Through Xuehai, Haoqi finds out the truth about Xiaoqi as well as her 2nd sister. In an extremely tragic part of the story, Master lao is reunited with his love through Xuehai in exchange that he will give her his heart the next day. The two catch up after some tense moments, and for a while things begin to go fine, but Lao has a sudden realization that he will never be able to be there for Xiaoer forever, and pushes her away. Resigned to his fate, he tells Digua that his story with Xiaoqi will end similarly before Xuehai takes his heart.
Haoqi becomes slightly villainous as he tricks one of his old friends into giving up his heart to Xuehai, and as we find out later, many other men. After Xuehai gets Lao's heart, she becomes more and more regretful for killing for her own gain. During this time, Xiaoqi, through a method of fortune telling, finds out that the person Digua is destined to marry is in fact Nana. This fact, coupled with the fact that haoqi married Xuehai instead of his old love Saijin, makes her want to set up Digua with Nana so he will have love in his life, and she is convinced that it cannot be her.
This goes on until Haoqi makes Xiaoqi realize that she cannot make Digua love someone else if she herself cannot. During this, Saijin finds out the secret of Xuehai, and vows to help them because it will help haoqi live. In a few short episodes, events explode as Xiaoqi finds out about Xuehai, and they have a brief fight. Due to a lucky hit, Xiaoqi is knocked out. A large fight erupts between Xinba, nana, Xuehai and Saijin. During the fight, Xinba kills himself due to his feelings for Nana being denied and wishes to contribute to Haoqi. Ironically, his heart is not taken, but Nana, who loves Digua and had tried to marry him multiple times, is enraged by his death. Fighting more fiercely than ever before, Nana almost strikes a lethal blow to Xuehai, but Saijin takes the hit and is killed instead.
Around the same time, Digua finds out about Haoqi, and has another duel with him, this time for real. Shockingly, he loses, but his life is spared, as Haoqi will not kill Digua meaninglessly.
After this, Gods and Goddesses from heaven start to get involved, as the deal Xuehai made with the snake demon has implications on a cosmic level for the Immortals. Goddess Guanyin, of Mercy, and the God of Land go to Earth to try to defuse the situation. Guanyin talks with Xuehai, and after a stirring speech, convinces her not to go through with her deal with the Snake Demon. The demon, losing his influence to start a war with heaven, retreats from China and Xuehai makes the ultimate sacrifice. After a touching final scene with Haoqi, Xuehai gives her Life essence to make Saijin come back to life from near death, and in the process, is herself killed.
Xuehai's story comes to a bittersweet close, as she finally realizes her dream, to feel love, right before death. Unfortunately, after one Crisis, another begins. The Jade Emperor, with unimaginable fury, finds out that Xiaoqi was in love with Digua, a mortal, and summons her back to heaven. Xiaoqi, in tears, rebels against her father, rejecting his foolish rule of love being a crime. Using his own definition of “Mercy”, the Jade emperor gives her three “days” imprisoned to think about her crime, or her spirit will be destroyed if she does not repent. This shocks all the gods and Goddesses, even Erlang.
When Digua finds out about this, he begs the god of land to tell him how to get to heaven so he can rescue Xiaoqi. During this time, he also trains with Yuanbao and Haoqi, both of whom have resolved to help him.
After much showing of resolve, and Haoqi giving up 50 years of life, the god of land shows the three how to get to heaven from earth, and warns them how treacherous the route is. Unfazed, the three set out and end up getting sidetracked into a demon-infested area. Showing their Unity and power, they manage to best the first test, a flying dragon guarding the path to the Green Gate, the barrier between heaven and Hell.
At the green gate, they meet the final guardian, who at first seems like a simple young boy. When they ask to get past the gate, he turns into a giant and starts fighting them. The three are no match physically for him, but Digua manages to pass thanks to Yuanbao cleverly tricking the Giant into concentrating on a pearl he was eyeing earlier.
Digua passes through the gate, the first mortal ever to reach heaven, and is greeted by Xiaoqi's sisters. After a breather, we learn that Xiaoqi has been brought before her father one last time for a chance to repent. When she still refuses, the Jade Emperor foolishly tells her that if Digua truly loved her, he would be there to defend her. Xiaoqi states the obvious response to that, until, at that second, probably my most favorite part of the show begins, when a sentry informs the celestial court that a mortal named Dong Yong(Digua) has broken into heaven and is fighing his way to the celestial court! I mean, COME ON! How FREAKING EPIC is that!!!!!! One of the most kickass moments in any show I've ever seen, second only to the several climaxes of Gurren Lagann. This goes beyond awesome into GODLIKE. The guy fights against ALL POSSIBLE AND IMPOSSIBLE odds to be with her, fighting against HEAVEN ITSELF all because he knows that the love between him and Xiaoqi is RIGHT. For the first time, the Jade Emperor looks stunned, and sends erlang, his dutiful guard to take care of Digua once and for all.
At this point in the show, I'm thinking “ooh yeah, this guy has been ASKING FOR IT the whole show! Come on Digua, KICK HIS ASS!” At first, Xiaoqi's sisters try to protect Digua from Erlang but he fights them all off, facing Digua. Digua attacks first, but Erlang blocks him.. and Sheathes his weapon. In a stunning show of even more AWESOMENESS, Erlang simply says “Come on, you have to hurry if you're going to save Xiaoqi.” I was floored. How can this get any more awesome.
At this part, even though they don`t show it, I keep picturing Digua, erlang, and the sisters riding on his giga-spear thing through a HUGE courtyard, fighting off lesser guards to get to the main chamber where the Jade Emperor is waiting, alone.
At this point, Digua sees Xiaoqi for the first time in a while, and they want to hug, but are separated. The Jade Emperor, fitting for a final boss, is actually impressed that Digua, a mortal made it to where he did, but he is still unimpressed and disgusted with why.
In the climax, Digua gives the emperor a Philosophical Beat Down, telling him exactly how rediculius his policies are, and how Love is more important than anything else, and what the love between two people really means to the two of them. It means more than just affection, and more than just time spent together, it is a feeling, a bond that encompasses all human emotion and by simply existing it grows ever stronger. The jade Emperor slowly runs out of arguments, and the other gods slowly creep back into the room. All of them now Stand with Digua. The Jade Emperor stands alone. Finally, the Queen Mother completely debases the Jade Emperor's stance and Point of view by revealing he had been under medication for several hundred years now.
At this being the last straw, and Digua seeing in his eyes that the Jade Emperor knows he is right, asks him to admit that Immortals have and need emotions as well, and to let Xiaoqi love as she pleases.
When we next see the Jade Emperor, he is in Tears… and pushes Digua off the edge of heaven into seemingly nothingness. What a Dick.
But it turns out, actually that this was all just so he could return to earth. Surprise! The gods are there as well, and best of all so is Xiaoqi, in wedding clothes! The Jade Emperor has finally allowed the two to be married! They are, in one of the most romantic and fulfilling scenes of any show I've seen, but it turns out, not without a sacrifice. The group learns that Haoqi died at the hands of the Giant protecting the gate, allowing Yuanbao to return to earth.
In the last episodes, a few loose ends are also tied up. Cui-Niang's father's crimes of murder and corruption were found out, and his property revoked and he was executed by the capitol. Because Yuanabo's family now also has little money left, and the two find they have more in common than originally thought, they take the first steps towards becoming a real family.
Haoqi's grandmother finally sees the error of her ways of raising Haoqi. In repentance, she becomes a nun, thinking the Shangguan family line is finished. As Digua and Haoqi find out, she is wrong, as Saijin is pregnant with Haoqi's child. She after seeming so unhappy and nervous thought the series finally seems fulfilled with this, having the son of the man she loved. She will take the place of her mother, running the inn. Although it is not shown, it is my hope that someone will help her and help raise the child!
However, in a sad turn it turns out that XQ and DG can only spend 100 days together, even though they have a child on the way. They treasure these days in many touching scenes, but sadly, XQ does indeed have to go back, and her child is even taken away from her and given to DG to raise. It is implied, though not stated outright, that the two do not see each other again.
Finally, showing, extremely surprisingly in modern times, analogues of Xiaoqi and Digua meeting and recognizing each other in the last scene of the show, proving and showing that Love is eternal.
Throughout the entire show, the main characters were told to stop believing in their dreams by people who have experienced similar things and failed. In every single case, the main characters proved them wrong not through any kind of miracle, but from the trust and alliances that come from all kinds of love, and through sheer work and determination.
It also proves that everyone's experiences are different. Just because two people's experiences start out and seem similar does not mean that they will end in the same way. I recommend this show to anyone who loves this genre and a show that proves that love will find a way to make things work out.
The actors emote extremely well also, especially Hu Ge and Ariel Lin.
I used music from Two Steps from Hell, because their music is just really epic. Even though Chinese Paladin 3 had so much more humor than it appears here, it still makes a pretty fast paced, serious MV.
I kind of wish it was easy to blend both serious and funny parts, but music sometimes doesn't work that way.
Actually, I'm not afraid of anything. I'm not afraid of destiny, nor am I afraid of suffering. I only fear that every time I wake up, the people around me would be missing. The one who is left behind is like trash -- Being abandoned and forgotten. In the end, they even forget who they were. When you lose your loved ones, you lose yourself as well? Having forgotten the person you love most means you have forgotten who you are.
I just wanted to talk about the scene in Seven of the Sky#22, where Digua regains his memory of Xiaoqi, and they confirm just how deep of a situation they are in if they are to continue their love.
At first, Digua is angry that he has remembered how much he loved her, because he knew all of the troubles it had caused both of them, and since he loved her, he didn’t want to cause her pain. Xiaoqi capitulates this, as she also wants what would make Digua happiest in the end. However, they cannot deny their feelings for each other surmount the suffering that they know will befall them if they continue their relationship.
Digua greatest fear is to not be with Xiaoqi, as he loves her so much he feels she is a part of himself, and would be akin to removing a limb to be separated.
Thus, they crux of the scene culminates into what I believe is an excellent display of the true meaning of love, the need to simply be with the other person and wish for their happiness. Digua is so distraught by the things he knows will happen if they remain together, that he reconciles that he can only hate Xiaoqi if he is to be with her outwardly, but love her inwardly.
Xiaoqi, once again understanding his feelings, agrees, realizing the tragedy of the situation and necessity of his “hate”, knowing that the only way their feelings can reach each other is through this outward “hate”. Both are clearly mortified by this prospect, but seem resigned to it until they embrace. Digua then confesses that if he is to have only one emotional connection in the world, it would be to “hate” Xiaoqi. Xiaoqi says the same, as their love runs so deep that they would forego all other emotional bonds.
What happens then is a tragic reversal of the “I love you more” argument, and they embrace in tears. Finally, with this in her heart, and the enormous burden they have left, she says she will always be with him.
In my opinion, I think this is a great scene truly showing the depths of love, and what it truly would mean to love at all costs even in the worst circumstance. It is one of the many great Philosophical points of Seven of the Sky.
Sun Ye is a voice actor who's been in many shows, from Ancient Chinese Series to Wuxia Animation. He has played Jing Ke, Leader and Meng Tian in The Legend of Qin, as well as Ying Wuqiu in Strange Hero Yi Zhi Mei and 13th Prince in Bu Bu Jing Xin. This is an interview with him giving advice on voice acting.
Translations of the Important Parts of this Interview
Interviewer: Let me make some introductions. Today, we've invited Teacher Sun Ye (he's considered a teacher/laoshi because he has a lot of experience in this line of work) He is our very elderly elder...
Sun Ye: That makes me sound so old. I'll give myself a round of applause first.
Interviewer: Teacher Sun Ye has voiced a lot of characters. You may not have seen him in person, but we should be very familiar with his voice on Discovery Channel.
Sun Ye: There a program on every Sunday night, around 11pm on the Discovery Channel, called Man vs Wild. I voiced a character there.
Interviewer: You also voiced a lot of animated roles. You used to be a part of the puppet shows. Like Sesame Street. What's the difference between voice acting performance and regular performance? (Eg: Stage performance)
Sun Ye: Stage performance is more exaggerated. The pacing and talking is slower. But if we just talk about voice acting, our language may sound more like daily life talking. For example, the idol shows use a very daily life language. For example: "Let us do this properly". On stage, every word is probably spoken very clearly. You have to let the audience hear every word. But if we talk daily life language, then we'll shorten the words. We'll combine a few words together. Of course, there's many types of shows, such as Ancient Series, which is likely to be more similar to stage performances.
Interviewer: There's a type of show that's very popular right now, and that is Ancient Series. A lot of kids ask, how do we control the voice and tone of the character? How is that different from modern series?
Sun Ye: This depends on the personality of the character you're voicing. Some scholars speak in a very polished and elegant way. Your ending word may be stretched a bit longer. For example, the last word in the sentence would go on for a bit longer. But if their personality is more direct and sturdy, their end tone would be cut off very clean. (Gives examples) Have you noticed that in life, when you're talking to different people, your way of talking and attitude is different? For example, when you talk to your mother, classmate, teacher, classmates you like, or classmates you don't like. Your attitude is completely different. You must be able to express the love, hate, anger, rage in your voice.
Also, I am very close to you right now, so I can be talking the way I am. But if I was further away, I'd have to talk like this. Right? (Raises voice) In our language, we should be able to determine the distance between us. Also, the relationship/feelings which our characters are feeling and experiencing. All these are expressed through our language. Of course, if we talk about the basics, you'd have pass being able to speak mandarin. Your language must have charm when you're speaking.
I remember in the past, Teacher Qiu Yuefeng said something really great. He said, when you start, you must 1) Say the words right, say all the words clearly and in an understandable way. 2) Be able to communicate to others what the situation is. You must be able to tell us what the situation is, you must make others understand what you're doing. The last one is the hardest. 3) Say it with feelings/emotions. If you're able to show the character's emotions, then it's perfect. If you can achieve all three, then you've reached perfection.
Interviewer: Lots of kids are asking, what are the basics we have to practice. Do we have to start tongue twisters? How does it help and how should we practice it?
Sun Ye: Tongue twisters are practicing basic techniques. Why? Because if you're able to move your mouth very fast (Gives example of tongue twister). Once you've practiced and can do these easily, you can throw away the burden of getting the speaking techniques right. Because if you can't even say the words correctly, you'll have more weight in your mind while you're trying to voice act. You'll feel, oh no. What should I do if I can't say that correctly? If you focus all your attention on that, it will be hard for you to perform. However, if we have no problems with your speaking/language skills, then a big burden will be lifted. Then, you can concentrate on your character. That way, it will be a big help.
Interviewer: What are some techniques for changing your voice?
Sun Ye: These are small movements of the muscles in your throat. This is very hard to describe in language. For example, listen. I'm talking like this right now. But what about now? (talks with another voice). Now, I'm talking like this. Fake voice - If I was just a regular guy, I'd say "I'm so happy" (Gives example), and if I was a monster, I'd say "Stop there for me!" (Deeper voice). All these are little movements and actions you're doing in your throat. It's hard to describe, I can't possibly say exactly how you do it since the muscles are limited. I can only say - listen and try and see how others do it, then try and imitate. We all started by imitating. If you're voicing characters who have certain appearances, you can think about how they'd sound. Or, you can always imagine it if they didn't have a physical appearance. For example, if you're voicing a skinny person, their voice would probably be flat and very thin. I'm talking about cartoons. They can do it like this... (Example) And what about a fat person? A round person? Then they can talk like this, their voice sounds rounder. (Example). You can think about what they look like, and what type of voice they have. A lot of this is imagination. But when you start out, you always imitate. Watch movies, watch a lot of cartoons. If you see someone who's really good with voice acting, go and learn from them and copy their style.
Interviewer: So, I've learned how to change my voice. But how do I stay in that voice? For example, they're talking in a voice and it's all going well, until their emotions change, they get excited and suddenly they're not able to keep their voice anymore.
Sun Ye: I think this is self control problem. Sometimes, you may feel there isn't a way. Because what happens when we get excited? My emotions would definitely rise, but what if I can't control my voice? Even the expert voice actors would have this problem. For example, I'm voicing an old man, which I often do. An old man talks like this: "No problems, I can say it like that. Right? We're talking like this. No problems". But as soon as I get angry, I'll go... "HOW COULD YOU DO THIS?!" (Changes voice - becomes higher pitched) I will also feel that my voice changed. It's hard. This is a self control thing, where you have to learn to control your own voice. It's unavoidable that when you're excited, your tone rises. As for voicing an old man, their voices are weaker and lower. (Example) However, an old man can also get angry, like this (How could you do this?!) What you do is, you ask yourself. Within the limits of what I can control, what are some emotion changes I can do?
Interviewer: Some people get really nervous in front of the mic. As soon as they're being recorded, they start to speak unnaturally.
Sun Ye: Some people do get nervous in front of the mic. For example, as soon as they're being recorded, they'll go like: Oh no, it's recording. This is serious... But these are all burdens you give yourself. For example, if you record and not tell them, their state of mind might be better. But this takes time. You can see that some older voice actors who's been doing this for 10-20 years are very relaxed when they're voice acting. Their talking is very natural. Some people will hold a breath and wait and wait... They go "BANG" when it's time to start. Think about this. When do we ever prepare when we talk in real life? I'll speak when I want to speak. That's natural. This is especially for voicing TV shows, because you have to match the mouth flaps. You don't know when he's gonna open his mouth, so you're waiting, waiting for him to speak, and holding my breath. OH HIS MOUTH MOVED, BANG, HERE I GO! That's not the right thing to do. You have to try talking normally and don't think too much about the fact that it's going to "start".
Interviewer: Normal speaking is fine, but when it comes to a a big laugh or cry, then they find it very hard. A lot of voice actors can get themselves in the role, but how do they cry beautifully or laugh naturally? Especially for laughing, they don't know how to laugh when the script says, "a big laugh".
Sun Ye: Firstly you have to learn the technique of laughing. There's a lot of different types of laughs, for example, a big laugh, sneaky laugh, or evil laugh. Another thing is - watch a lot of movies. See how others laugh. There are some people who are laughing while they're crying. Have you seen "Face Off"? Those 2 changed faces. They're feeling very sad, and crying but they have to laugh along with others at the same time. That is extremely difficult. Don't do that yet, but just be able to laugh loudly. For example: Hahahaha. Another type if a cold laugh, "who does he think he is?!", and another one is an evil laugh. Don't think too much when you're voice acting.
For example, when you're crying, you're always thinking about your voice. Does it sound good or pretty? That's like a cat catching a mouse, and thinking. How shall I catch it? What position should I have so I look pretty? How should I place my feet? By that time, the mouse has long ran away. When you're voice acting, you can't think too much about how your voice sounds. Put all your emotions in it, laugh and cry the way you're suppose to.
Interviewer: Some people have to cry and say the lines at the same time. But some people find that if they start to cry, they can't talk anymore.
Sun Ye: All these questions are very professional. It's another self control thing. It's true we have to be engrossed in the emotions of our character. But I still think we shouldn't be completely engrossed. We still need to be rational. When you're acting, you must have no one else in your eyes, but at the same time you must still see others in your eyes. If you are acting, you shouldn't care about the audiences. But if you're 100% engrossed, that's not right either.